Posts by william draper

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I'm a Jinx--anyone else?

by Junction-Guy in

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im surprised i havent posted anything like this before.

i believe im jinxed.

everything i touch turns to crap.

Junction Guy makes an observation about life that I believe many can relate to . I believe that I rule in this arena , as I guess others may also believe the same about themselves , Years ago when I was traveling between Texas and Florida , it seemed as if the Hurricanes went wherever I had left from .

There is probably nothing that hurts like having your children ripped away from you either unjustly , or with just cause , but the pain I expect goes deeper when you have your children unjustly taken from you , which I believe women are most often the perpetrators of this criminal activity which often no criminal actions are taken against one , then you are lied against in order for them to continue their scheme .

When my wife and I got back together back in 1986 , everything was going OK , I had learned to control my frustration in regards to her very very irrational behavior , running out of the house and telling me she wasn't going to stay home with the children while I went to work . There was no drama the last time we got back together , then just like 2 days after we all went to the outer Disney area , and had a nice time , she disappeared with the children while I was at work , went back to her parents 1000 miles away , I followed in order to see my children. taking a leave from my job , I slept in the park and got a job at Richards Restaurant , stayed just 1 day late after my bus ticket expired for return trip , so I ended up hitchhiking back to Florida , never having been allowed to spend time with my children , except I agree only in her parents house . My ex had ran up a phone bill of more than $750.00 , during that last time we were back together for about 6 weeks . 12 months later she looses the children , to the Babysitter due to neglect , and abuse by her and her new husband , I only found out by hiring a PI . About 16 years later , I made contact with my children , and things looked like they might go well , they were asking about their mother though , at the mall I talked a little about their mother , making a positive note in one regard , REMEMBER , so anyway I helped them get back together with their mother . The elder told me she was married with 3 children , now I am talking to my children and they say Mom is living with them , along with their 3 children , and I say you mean she is visiting , NO she is living here now , she divorced and now living there with them . I call the elder he says that her husband is trying to sell the property and move down there also ? ? ? ? ? ? So I am talking to my children again . . . . . . DON'T YOU CALL MOM A LIAR they are hysterical and upset at me ... . seems that their mother is also feeding them those old lies once again .. . . its hell all over again 😨

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Being in a cult - what good did it do?

by Garrett in

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so, here's a bit of a different point of view.

while most of us will agree that our time within the jw cult was rather terrible, however, i'd like to look at another aspect.

did anything good come out of being in a cult and then waking up from it?.

william draper

Being able to speak of some of the good things that existed in a religion , which one has left , is a sign that they are reasonable people , and open minded . Such gives more credence to the decision that they have made in leaving this church .

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Being in a cult - what good did it do?

by Garrett in

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so, here's a bit of a different point of view.

while most of us will agree that our time within the jw cult was rather terrible, however, i'd like to look at another aspect.

did anything good come out of being in a cult and then waking up from it?.

william draper

I wonder had I not joined this religion , would I have been some sucessful Jerk , one never knows , I have though learned how to live a life in poverty most of life , and still at times , be able to smile , I lost my 2 children mostly due to the teachings of this religion , and the religion giving no support for headsip if it appears that the woman that left is more of a witness than the man . Her home congregation supported her in keeping the children away from me then 12 months later she lost the children to some UCC relious people she became friends with , her and new husband neglect and abuse of the children .

I have though learned well how not to be a part of the world that just wants to have a good time , no matter if it based upon falsehoods , or hurts other people

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Is door to door activity over?

by badcompany in

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just curious about others experience.

i've been living just a few miles from a kingdom hall for 9 years.

i've been called on 0 times.

william draper

GOING DOOR TO DOOR , . . . . ON SATURDAY

EVER WONDER HOW THIS ACTIVITY CONTINUES ON , AND ON THE SABBATH DAY .

It seems to me that there are a few religions that at least something right , but it seems that having one or two things right is about as far as it goes .

Who amongst us have gone door to door on our own , that is not in support of the Watchtower . A strange thing happened , I rented a room at the Rec Center , for eve Bible Study / Meetings , and was canvassing the local area very much for a month , by myself .

On top of this, people stalking me / some criminal org or religious cult , Now I am prayerfully considering what would take place during this meeting . There were not as many as I had hoped for , less than 100 , actually less than 20 , , for some odd reason only Proverbs ch 1 , stuck in my mind , so I said OK , that is what it will be , no matter who shows up . After that I would introduce my 500 scripture study on large screen .

Who actually showed up , just 1 person , and I am sure that that one person was part of the criminal org . stalking me , and guess what else , it was a women . Oh how I thank God that that part of the Bible was put in my head to review .

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My first "disagreement" with standard JW thinking

by TTATT_Paladin in

about two years after i was baptized, i had this incident.

i looked at it as an isolated incident at the time, but now realize it would have had basically the same result with 99.99% of any jws not members here.. i will keep it short.

i was talking with a person who was raised in the religion.

william draper

I agree the names of the week , and related things would change .

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PSALMS 83: 18 What is the name of God ?

by william draper in

so many of us have been taught that the name of god is jehovah , if like me many have come to really appreciate god's name .. .

more accurately we , at least many or most love the name of jehovah , or more accurately should i say this pronunciation .

does god care what we call him , of course he does , he had his name written in the bible as yhwh ( best i can do on this computer ) , more than 6000 times .

william draper

Love your response Simon . was all that in the EB , looks like some extra research there , thankyou .. ..

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The real story on why The Watchtower society lost a Kingdom hall in Bonham ,Texas.!

by koolaid-man in

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what happened in bonham, texas?

: the body of elders and the majority of the congregation decided to leave the watch tower organization.

and with that, they took the kingdom hall.

william draper

Who owns the KH building , if it is being financed by the Society , then the Society of course maintains ownership , till it has been paid for . If locals put up 50% or more of the costs , then it should be a shared ownership , when of course you have witnesses giving their labor for free to build the KH , this would raise a possible issue .

People of the Watchtower should be setting an example , of not COVETING , their primary objective should be Teaching the correct understanding of Biblical importance . Of course some safeguards are necessary , you wouldn't want a KH owned by just one brother that may later decide , that he no longer wants anything to do with the JWs , and sells the KH , this would put extreme stress upon any organization , having to worry about such things , this of course doesn't mean the Society should claim ownership of all the KHs .

SURE WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A COPY OF THAT LETTER FROM THE TEXAS CONGREGATION THAT WAS SENT TO THE WATCHTOWER . IT APPEARS THE SOCIETY REALLY ACTED IRRATIONALLY REGARDING IT .

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PSALMS 83: 18 What is the name of God ?

by william draper in

so many of us have been taught that the name of god is jehovah , if like me many have come to really appreciate god's name .. .

more accurately we , at least many or most love the name of jehovah , or more accurately should i say this pronunciation .

does god care what we call him , of course he does , he had his name written in the bible as yhwh ( best i can do on this computer ) , more than 6000 times .

william draper

Although there appears to be still lacking evidence , very oddly there are incitations of God's name having been written in the New Testament , besides Jws , others speak of MATTHEW as possibly have been originally in Hebrew , but no real evidence of this found as of yet .

We know that when the NT writings were being written , God's name was no longer in use by those of the Orthodox , and it was much discouraged ; were there possible reasons why do not find the name of God in the NT besides the idea , that it wasn't of any importance , possibly there were severe consequences if found in those letters which had wide circulation . It is said in John ch 17, though that Yeshua / Jesus made God's name known , there is no reason to read into this , anything but that which it says .. that Yeshua reminded the people of God's name YHWH , quite possibly this is one more thing that created friction between Yeshua , and some of the religious leaders .

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PSALMS 83: 18 What is the name of God ?

by william draper in

so many of us have been taught that the name of god is jehovah , if like me many have come to really appreciate god's name .. .

more accurately we , at least many or most love the name of jehovah , or more accurately should i say this pronunciation .

does god care what we call him , of course he does , he had his name written in the bible as yhwh ( best i can do on this computer ) , more than 6000 times .

william draper

So many of us have been taught that the name of God is Jehovah , if like me many have come to really appreciate God's name .. . or have we . More accurately we , at least many or most love the name of Jehovah , or more accurately should I say this pronunciation .

Does God care what we call him , of course he does , He had his name written in the Bible as YHWH ( best I can do on this computer ) , more than 6000 times . Now one would think Jehovah Witnesses would be ones that truly love the name of God , they go about everywhere saying DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF GOD ? here let me show you here in Psalms 83: 18

Dear friends , the name of God is NOT Jehovah 😧 , It is widely known that the more correct pronunciation begins as such . . . Yah .. . most common understanding is Yahweh , but the pronunciation could be more like Yahuah , I believe it is true that there was not a . . .J . . pronunciation in the ancient Hebrew language .

How nice it would be to actually know and use the correct pronunciation of God's name , but we will never come close to such if we keep making lame excuses like nobody really knows what it is , this could actually be a lie perpetuated foremost by the JW RELIGION . In my studies , I read that an ancient Samaritan sect never stopped using but he name of God , more research is needed on this . We do know , as least every scholar that there is agrees that the pronunciation of gods name begins with . . . Yah . . . We should understand and appreciate this , from the phrase Hallelu-jah , jah here is pronounced as Yah .

Let's say your name is John what if some people called you Hohn , how would you react , you would correct the person right . .. Actually my name is John , then you see the person another day and he would again call you Hohn , YOU WOULDN'T APPRECIATE IT WOULD YOU . . .The excuses the *ORG* uses to keep perpetuating the name of God as Jehovah and actually nobody knows , so we just use Jehovah , is deceitful , it actually perpetuates the abuse of God's name . And there is that confusing thing about the Transliteration of Gods name , another deceitful tactic . THE WATCHTOWER DEMANDS ABSOLUTE UNITY , AND SAYS THEY ARE GIVING US TRUTHS AS GOD SEES FIT TO REVEAL , now why is God revealing the truth about his name to everybody butJehovah Witnesses which keep teaching some kind of confusion about it , OH THE NAME HAS TO BE TRANSLITERATED . . . . THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE . PROPER NÀMES ARE NOT ALWAYS CHANGED for instance the name of our President . . OBAMA . . this is pronounced as OBAMA throughout the whole earth , the name of a Country , like China , it is pronounced as China throughout the entire earth .

Doesn't it seem logical that we should use the best understanding that we can attain , when calling upon the name of our God , shouldn't we teach others according to the best understanding that there is , that we are aware of . YES OF COURSE . THIS THOUGH IS NOT WHAT JEHOVAH WITNESSES DO , THEY TEACH A CONFUSION ABOUT GODS NAME .

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

william draper

Correction about Johnathan eating non bleed meat , and King Saul set to kill him . Johnathan saw honey and partake of it , not knowing of his Fathers decree , others ate meat which they did not drain the blood , ALL THE PEOPLE SPOKE UP FOR JOHNATHAN thus saving him from death , all that is said regarding the meat that was eaten , without draining the blood was that the men should bring their animal to a certain area and do things properly , there doesn't appear to have been any penalty imposed upon any for this . 1ST SAMUEL ch 14